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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t buy Maxtor Shared Storage II</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-81885</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raul, I've decided to go with an Apple Time Capsule, which so far looks good. Getting data from the Maxtor backup is proving time-consuming and a little frustrating, but I wouldn't have expected anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raul, I&#8217;ve decided to go with an Apple Time Capsule, which so far looks good. Getting data from the Maxtor backup is proving time-consuming and a little frustrating, but I wouldn&#8217;t have expected anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul Lucky</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-81875</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

Just found your blog via Google.  I am using one of the infamous MSSII 1TB drives too and am getting the out of sync RAID every once in a while and have to turn off and on the device to get it back working.  Also, I just purchased a D-Link DNS-323 from Amazon and will be working on getting that up and running too.  I am wondering if reflashing the firmware with the open-source one will give better stability to the system or is the controller just plain crap?  I chose the DNS-323 because of its known reliability, the user-replaceable drive and the fact that it gets great support (at least new firmware releases to address issues).  However I do use the Maxtor USB/FW drives and am trying to move more towards user-replaceable systems (that do not void warranty).  So what are you using now?

cheers,

Raul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>Just found your blog via Google.  I am using one of the infamous MSSII 1TB drives too and am getting the out of sync RAID every once in a while and have to turn off and on the device to get it back working.  Also, I just purchased a D-Link DNS-323 from Amazon and will be working on getting that up and running too.  I am wondering if reflashing the firmware with the open-source one will give better stability to the system or is the controller just plain crap?  I chose the DNS-323 because of its known reliability, the user-replaceable drive and the fact that it gets great support (at least new firmware releases to address issues).  However I do use the Maxtor USB/FW drives and am trying to move more towards user-replaceable systems (that do not void warranty).  So what are you using now?</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>Raul</p>
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		<title>By: Bye bye Maxtor at Pat&#8217;s Point of View</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-81871</link>
		<dc:creator>Bye bye Maxtor at Pat&#8217;s Point of View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] enough is enough. I have finally ditched my Maxtor Shared Storage II NAS drive which I had so much trouble with. I was sick of it screwing up, but mostly I was sick of not being confident that my data was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] enough is enough. I have finally ditched my Maxtor Shared Storage II NAS drive which I had so much trouble with. I was sick of it screwing up, but mostly I was sick of not being confident that my data was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-81757</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pat, we're about to buy that Maxtor shared Storage II so since you mentioned that I lost my interest of buying that storage. I'm thinking now about D-Link DNS-323.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pat, we&#8217;re about to buy that Maxtor shared Storage II so since you mentioned that I lost my interest of buying that storage. I&#8217;m thinking now about D-Link DNS-323.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-76855</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it says a lot about what Seagate think about the Maxtor products they "inherited".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it says a lot about what Seagate think about the Maxtor products they &#8220;inherited&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-76854</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the exact same problrm with a Maxtor 320 now they want me to send it back with business accounts information on it. I thought it was strange the way they said it must be faulty so quick over the phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the exact same problrm with a Maxtor 320 now they want me to send it back with business accounts information on it. I thought it was strange the way they said it must be faulty so quick over the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-67935</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your help. The problem is pretty simple. The disks would not spin although mains power was supplied at the cord. I have advised Seagate, as Digiworld still haven't returned promised calls. The unit was registered and there is no issue of warranty; just indifference by the retailer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your help. The problem is pretty simple. The disks would not spin although mains power was supplied at the cord. I have advised Seagate, as Digiworld still haven&#8217;t returned promised calls. The unit was registered and there is no issue of warranty; just indifference by the retailer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-67408</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope things improve for you Peter. What was the specific problem you had with the drive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope things improve for you Peter. What was the specific problem you had with the drive?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't agree more. More specifically, the problem is worse when dealing with Digiworld. My  Maxtor 500GB lasted weeks and was returned for repair/replacement. The diagnosis was to take one week. 8 weeks and counting, 5 phone calls and requests for return calls unanswered, I am told by the Sales Mgr that repairs are the responsibility of the technician, as is customer service and satisfaction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. More specifically, the problem is worse when dealing with Digiworld. My  Maxtor 500GB lasted weeks and was returned for repair/replacement. The diagnosis was to take one week. 8 weeks and counting, 5 phone calls and requests for return calls unanswered, I am told by the Sales Mgr that repairs are the responsibility of the technician, as is customer service and satisfaction!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.gurtle.com/ppov/2008/04/12/dont-buy-maxtor-shared-storage-ii/#comment-66206</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 23:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An update on the situation. The NAS device has been working well since the last incident, running pretty much constantly. I put this success down to the cooler ambient temperature now that we're heading towards winter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then all of a sudden it started flashing an error code on the front LEDs. Anyone who has one of the 1TB units will probably be familiar with this code: green orange orange orange orange. This apparently means &lt;a href="http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_sid=IUhmRE4j&#038;p_lva=&#038;p_li=&#038;p_faqid=3007&#038;p_created=1161543637&#038;p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04OSw4OSZwX3Byb2RzPTQxMCw0MjIsNTAwJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9My41MDAmcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**" rel="nofollow"&gt;"filesystem error"&lt;/a&gt;. Oh joy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By this time the device was inaccessible again, neither by HTTP or SMB/CIFS. And I couldn't turn it off using the power button. Nothing much had been written to the drive since the last backup, so I felt I had nothing to lose. I couldn't hear the disks spinning so I pulled the power plug. This is a wonderfully satisfying action, especially when accompanied by the (internally spoken) words "die you bastard, die!".&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plugging the power back in and booting it revealed a working device but the error code was now green orange, indicating a RAID sync problem. Reading the support forums this appears to be quite common, but someone has found a &lt;a href="http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=mss&#038;message.id=408&#038;jump=true#M408" rel="nofollow"&gt;solution&lt;/a&gt;. I followed the instructions and was able to rebuild the RAID 1 array by re-adding the disk that had got out of sync. It was surprisingly easy and other than the array rebuilding, took a matter of minutes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I now have a solution to the two most common issues:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if the drive goes nuts, disconnect the network, wait for no disk activity, and then unplug the power&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if one of the disks gets out of sync, login and rebuild the RAID array&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What else can go wrong?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on the situation. The NAS device has been working well since the last incident, running pretty much constantly. I put this success down to the cooler ambient temperature now that we&#8217;re heading towards winter.</p>
<p>Then all of a sudden it started flashing an error code on the front LEDs. Anyone who has one of the 1TB units will probably be familiar with this code: green orange orange orange orange. This apparently means <a href="http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_sid=IUhmRE4j&#038;p_lva=&#038;p_li=&#038;p_faqid=3007&#038;p_created=1161543637&#038;p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04OSw4OSZwX3Byb2RzPTQxMCw0MjIsNTAwJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9My41MDAmcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**" rel="nofollow">&#8220;filesystem error&#8221;</a>. Oh joy.</p>
<p>By this time the device was inaccessible again, neither by HTTP or SMB/CIFS. And I couldn&#8217;t turn it off using the power button. Nothing much had been written to the drive since the last backup, so I felt I had nothing to lose. I couldn&#8217;t hear the disks spinning so I pulled the power plug. This is a wonderfully satisfying action, especially when accompanied by the (internally spoken) words &#8220;die you bastard, die!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Plugging the power back in and booting it revealed a working device but the error code was now green orange, indicating a RAID sync problem. Reading the support forums this appears to be quite common, but someone has found a <a href="http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=mss&#038;message.id=408&#038;jump=true#M408" rel="nofollow">solution</a>. I followed the instructions and was able to rebuild the RAID 1 array by re-adding the disk that had got out of sync. It was surprisingly easy and other than the array rebuilding, took a matter of minutes.</p>
<p>So I now have a solution to the two most common issues:</p>
<ol>
<li>if the drive goes nuts, disconnect the network, wait for no disk activity, and then unplug the power</li>
<li>if one of the disks gets out of sync, login and rebuild the RAID array</li>
</ol>
<p>What else can go wrong?</p>
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